Macinante Odds & Sods
or Bits & Pieces


"Macinante" Archived in 1839-1923 Ship Passenger List Tranactions



"Chetta" is probably misspelled "Elettra"



From SHF Maritime Records 18/09/2014:-

The Ormuz was a steel steamship of 6465 gross tons launched at the Glasgow shipyards
of Fairfield and Co Ltd in 1886 for the Orient Steam Navigation Co Ltd.
She was fitted with four masts.
Passenger accommodation was 106 first class, 170 second class and 120 steerage class.




"Macinante" Irish?


Answer:

' ...... Ann Macinante (Cuddy) tells how Dunlea brought to her parent's home a large tome of Irish history to show them a passage relating to a famous fifth century Irish harpist named Macinanty, saying "you may be Italian but your roots are in Ireland". ...... '

The above quote is from the book titled "Father Tom Dunlea a Memoir" by John McSweeney PE (available from the Dunlea Centre, Engadine)
Scattered throughout the book are many quotes about the Hurstville Macinantes, including one that Ann Macinante was the first secretary of Boys' Town

The Villa Macinante

The Villa Macinante is / was in Salerno, Italy. Do you know the exact address?

Answer:

Greg and Mary Clare trip to Italy 2003

On our recent trip to Italy, we had planned to look for the Macinante family home, visited by Molly and Joe in 1982, but at that time damaged by the earthquake of 1980. As a starting point we had in mind to look up the registry of births where we expected to find an address. When we arrived in Rome on 26/5/03 we got straight on a train for Salerno where we had booked a hotel for 4 days. We were travelling with an old friend Mario who was born in Italy, and his wife Kathie.

Salerno is a busy coastal seaport on the Gulf of Salerno, south of Naples. It has a container terminal, fishing fleet, bustling shops and unbelievable traffic!!! The old part of town has a 1,000 year old cathedral where St Thomas Aquinas preached, a famous medieval medical school and other ruins dating back to Roman times.

Molly had reminded us that the family lived in Pontecagnano which is a satellite suburb to the south of Salerno and we found a local bus to take us there. Unfortunately we arrived at siesta time when the Council was closing for the day, but a sympathetic official told Mario that the records we wanted would be in Montecorvino Pugliano, up in the mountains. This village did not appear on our map, but he said it was next to Montecorvino Rovella, a bigger village which did appear on our map.

As it was by then too late to go there that day we spent some time looking around Pontecagnano. It is a busy suburb built along the main road south from Salerno. Behind the shop fronts on the main road were gardens and fruit trees. There was a large Citroen assembly plant on the other side of the railway line which carried finished cars to the port of Salerno.

The next day we set off early, again by local bus to Montecorvino Pugliano up a narrow winding road into the hills. These 2 villages are built on the ridge above Salerno where fighting took place in the Second World War, when the Americans and Allied forces landed.

After a lot of negotiation by Mario in Italian we got a photocopy of Candido's birth certificate from an old leather-bound book that was the Register – hand written and falling apart. However none of the entries had addresses. At the time (1888) the area was a small rural village and obviously everyone knew who lived where. We were befriended by the local policeman who drove us back to Salerno via Pontecagnano. He drove us through the old area of town and said that all the buildings that were damaged by the earthquake had been demolished.

We looked in the local phone book and found that there are Macinantes listed in Pontecagnano but did not have enough Italian to phone them. Maybe someone is interested in writing?? We did not have time to go to the cemetery or look in local church Baptism registers.

Greg and Mary Clare* Holloway
November 2003

*granddaughter of Candido Macinante


Answer:
In January 2003 Kath and I searched for the location of the Villa Macinante The photos of the Villa Macinante on this site were taken by Joe and Molly Macinante in 1982. Unfortunately the address was not recorded. The only clue we had was shown on the top of Giocondo's birth certificate "MONTECORVENO PUGLIANO Salerno"
We caught a train to Salerno then another to Montecorveno (see province map), when we reached Monticoverno we found what compared to other parts of Italy we had visited was a poor town, it was sleepy, raining and cold
It was a Saturday, all government offices were closed and even the church was locked so we abandoned our search. We are leaving these notes here in the hope that they will be of use as a starting point for other searchers.

Mick MacInante
January 2003


Do you know the origin of the naming of Canale Macinante?
Macinante sewer canal - description


Answer:
- see below
Canale Macinante

  Lynne Hails
   granddaughter of Edmondo Macinante

  Maria Banks
   granddaughter of Edmondo Macinante

  Mick MacInante
   grandson of Candido Macinante

Do you know the origin of the naming of Via del Fosso Macinante?


Firenze (Florence)
Answer:
In January 2003 on an Italy tour a few Macinante family descendants visited Canale Macinante and Via Del Fosso Macinante in Firenze (Florence), our hotel receptionist explained that Macinante is an old Italian family name which means millers and Fosso Macinante means little mill. When we visited these sights we observed that they are very close to each other and that in Canale Macinante there are structures which might have been mountings for paddle wheel drives for powering mills.

Mick MacInante
January 2003

Antonion & Maria Macinante

All the information we have about the father of Salvatore Macinante 1848 - 1914 is that he was a farmer called Antonion Macinante (see Macinante family memories - Certificates).
Salvatore's mother was Maria, maiden name ALFINITO

Do you have anymore information about Antonion & Maria Macinante (and/or other distant relatives)?

Giuseppe and Luciana

The parents of Anastasia Macinante (nee Balboitalo) 1858 - 1929 were Giuseppe and Luciana.
Do you have anymore information about Giuseppe and Luciana (and/or other distant relatives)?

Dates

Do you know the year of birth and the year of death of Nino?
Answer: Nino (Antonio) Macinante was born on 1st June 1895. Died 25th January, 1971
Marisa Soligo (daughter of Nina Macinante Grimaldi)
Do you know the year of birth and the year of death of Edmondo?
I'd like to put these on the front page of the Family Tree (Web site version)

The Macinante curse

Should the curse be talked about on this Web site?
Should our descendants know the curse existed?
How and why did the curse originate?
What is the curse?
Answer: I would like more information about the curse. I believe it should be put on the website. Whether it be fact or fiction it is part of the family history.
Marisa Soligo

Answer:
.... From information about that Curse told to me during my lifetime & questioning of that subject; it [the Curse] was placed on the eldest sons of each progressive family from almost medieval times of long ago in Italy. There was a supposed abandonment of a marriage proposal by a Macinante suitor for the hand of a female who was not declared to me by my mother, Lucia [wife of Auelio Macinante]. That lady put the curse on the family for her rejection by that male and it was supposed to be for a certain number of years. How many, I've forgotten exactly but I think it was to the tenth generation of the Macinante families, which should mean it has just about run its course as that would have been made around about 200 years ago. ... .

.... [The Curse] cursed the eldest son of those future generations from the time the curse was invoked to prevent him from ever being lucky in love at all times in his life. ...

[Correspondence from]
Salvatore Macinante
Gosford, January 2003 & February 2003

Cosy Corner
(Railway Parade, Kogarah)


2005 "Cosy Corner" is in memories of two branches of the Macinante family:Candido's, (see MACINANTE FAMILY by ANASTASIA MACINANTE - CUDDY ) and Auerelio's (see 1 REMINISCENCES of SALVATORE
The building is still there and a recent photo is above.
Do you know if the building was occupied by other Macinantes?
Answer: From a conversation with Ann Cuddy, December 2006
the following also lived in the Cosy Corner:-
  • Anastasia Macinante (nee Balbo)
  • Lucy Macinante
  • Electra Macinante
  • Edmondo Macinante
  • Giocondo(Johnny) Macinante

Answers

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Links to other Macinante sites

Anthony Macinante Autobiography: "Italians in New South Wales Project"
 (scroll about ¼ down the page)

Alexander Macinante

Hereditary Spastic Paraplegia (HSP)


I have been diagnosed having Hereditary Spastic Paraplegia and when I was remenising with Salvatore(Don) Macinante (1923 - 2005) he said I walk just like his grandfather Salvatore Macinante did, Salvatore is your grandfather/greatgrandfather/great-graet grandfather.
Hereditary Spastic Paraplegia is an inherited, degenerative disease affecting mainly the legs, causing spasticity and severely impairing walking.
Is your Doctor determining whether you have HSP?
If so, he/she might want to know your relationship to those who have HSP.
If you have HSP or if you know of other relos who have/had HSP please email me mickmac@sydney.dialix.com.au .
There are lots of Web sites about HSP, just key-in Hereditary Spastic Paraplegia into your Search Engin.
The good news is that the chance of you having/getting HSP is about 3 in 100,000

Michael(Mick) Macinante (Candido's grandson and Salvatore Macinante & Anastasia Macinante, nee Balbito's great grandson )